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Good computer mahjongg game
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The Mike
2003-07-30 10:20:52 UTC
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Hi all

whats the best "real" mahjongg computergame ?
At the moment i'm playing "Mah jongg The real game" (mahjongg.com)
but there got to be more great training computergames out there

By the way,
bear with the spelling, I'm Danish :-)

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Tom Sloper
2003-07-30 17:25:01 UTC
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Post by The Mike
whats the best "real" mahjongg computergame ?
At the moment i'm playing "Mah jongg The real game" (mahjongg.com)
but there got to be more great training computergames out there
The most beautiful one is Hong Kong Mahjong. The one with the best features
is Four Winds. For their websites, and to see a complete list of mah-jongg
software, read FAQ 5 (the FAQs are published weekly here on this newsgroup).

Cheers,
Tom
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Martin Rep
2003-07-31 12:49:49 UTC
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Post by The Mike
Hi all
whats the best "real" mahjongg computergame ?
At the moment i'm playing "Mah jongg The real game" (mahjongg.com)
but there got to be more great training computergames out there
By the way,
bear with the spelling, I'm Danish :-)
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Hi
An accurate survey of how to play mahjong on the pc, including
reviews, is to be found on
http://www.mahjongnews.com/softwarecontentframe_eng.htm

The best? Depends what you want.
1) FourWinds 2.0 is very versatile, you can play any local variant of
mahjong, also online
1) If you just want Hong Kong Mahjong, the HKMJ for Windows is the
best; but no on line gaming :-(
1) If you want to play Japanese Riichi Mahjong (and you do - it's the
most thrilling variant!) you should try and get a second-hand copy of
Shanghai Second Dynasty. Can also be played only, esp. against Tom
Sloper and/or me

On the same page you will find a link to Japanese mahjong software,
always riichi mahjong.

Good luck, and don't forget: it's nicer to play with real folks at a
table ;-)




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|Martin Rep
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Tom Sloper
2003-07-31 17:10:28 UTC
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Post by Martin Rep
you should try and get a second-hand copy of
Shanghai Second Dynasty. Can also be played [online]
I never recommend that folks try to get that old program anymore, for three
reasons.

1. Now that it's out of print, it's extremely difficult to obtain.

2. Now that Windows XP is becoming widespread, and the game was not made to
support Windows XP, a lot of people who have the game are running into
problems installing or running the game. And they are having problems
getting the v1.1 patch to work, especially if their machine has a non-US
OS... since the game isn't being supported by Activision anymore, it's a
mess for users of newer machines.

3. Since Activision is not actively supporting the online servers, there is
only one now that still works. The last time Martin and I tried playing S2D
online, it looked like two servers were still OK, but the first one we tried
didn't work properly. I don't know how much longer that one remaining
server will continue to have the Shanghai Second Dynasty software running.

Accordingly, I just recommend Four Winds and HKMJ. If someone's interested
in Japanese mah-jongg and also can read Japanese, for that person I
recommend that they check the plentiful Japanese download sites.

Cheers,
Tom

P.S. Let me go ahead now and give the comebacks to expected objections to my
three points raised above.

1. I occasionally hear that a bookstore in the Netherlands has a couple
copies, or a shop in New Zealand - but when I tell folks this, they often
don't want to incur shipping charges from that far, and one guy told me that
the New Zealand shop refused to sell the game to him because there's an
"Australia only" label on it or something. I've got one woman who repeatedly
advertises on my bulletin board, looking to obtain a copy - she hasn't had
any luck as of yet.

2. Shanghai Second Dynasty works fine on MY Windows XP machine. Perhaps
because I installed the game before installing Windows XP. And perhaps
because I am both intimately familiar with the game's idiosyncrasies AND
have the patience (born of the need) to MAKE it work on my machine. I
recently discovered (through a user email) that Shanghai (First) Dynasty
does not work on Windows XP (and it indeed does not) - and I even had
trouble getting it to work on my Windows 98 machine (had to fiddle with
monitor color settings to fix that one). But although I can get these games
to work on my machines, that doesn't mean that the average mah-jongg
aficionado would have an enjoyable experience with them.

3. Yes, last time I tried it, the online feature did still work. But just
barely. And it always was a pain to make it work. It just isn't worth the
trouble for the casual gamer. For online, better to go to Yahoo or IMS.
Martin Rep
2003-08-01 09:30:53 UTC
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Post by Martin Rep
you should try and get a second-hand copy of
Shanghai Second Dynasty. Can also be played [online]
I never recommend that folks try to get that old program anymore, for three
reasons.
<snap>


Shanghai: Second Dynasty is so very good, that on my pc I have Windows
98 running as well as Windows XP. S2D runs great under W98, as does
the Japanese Touzai (riichi) game (which does not work anymore under
higher - Western - Windows versions).
But thanks for your info Tom, I will include it on the page of my
website describing S2D. And I suggest you develop a new version
yourself which we will all buy to make you rich. FourWinds 2.0 is a
*very good* game, but it misses the thrill of S2D. Perhaps you could
also add CO, and for your fellow countrymen an American variant.


Greetz



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|Martin Rep
|The Independent Internet Mahjong Newspaper
|Mahjong News:
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|The Dutch Championship Riichi Mahjong:
|www.riichi.tk
|The Golden Dragon Hong Kong Mahjong Club:
|www.gouden-draak.nl

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